Pentecostal. Beth and Priscilla both teach a false Jesus and a false gospel. but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. If you need more examples, simply go to YouTube and type Priscilla Shirer sermon into the search bar. Do you send women to your articles as a response?. You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). And then help teach it to other women. Evangelical/Non-Denominational. This title is taken directly from the text; verse 37 tells us that the people were astonished beyond measure. Good News Translation For your sake, my friends, I have applied all this to Apollos and me, using the two of us as an example, so that you may learn what the saying means, "Observe the proper rules." Matthew 18 does not apply to public false teaching. THERE WERE
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Pastors dont read LifeWay studies or pay attention to the false teaching crowd, for the most part. These are sources Im familiar with and consider doctrinally sound, but if someone digs up an article one of them wrote from ten years ago that says something biblically askew, I obviously do not endorse that.) But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. #4a- Unfortunately, most people do read themselves into Scripture (largely due to being taught that way by false teachers such as the aforementioned and many others), but that doesnt mean its the correct way to study Scripture. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-pastored by a woman), Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018, Special Guest Priscilla Shirer (October 11, 2015) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at The Refuge Church (co-pastored by a woman), What Are You Looking At | Priscilla Shirer | Hillsong East Coast (October 4, 2020) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon for Hillsong East Coast, Women Teachers? Going Beyond Obedience. Armor of God Workbook with Video Access Jesus taught us the way He wanted us to pray. It was an immediate NO after I listened to less than 1 minute of her reference about Oprah. What we believe about God must come from Scripture alone. Can you explain ? Next, as I hope you would agree, Scripture is our final authority as Christians.
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If a pastor (or husband- Beth has also said she is acting under her husbands mantle of authority) tries to give her that authority, he is putting himself in the place of God who has prohibited it and he is sinning, too. Priscilla often uses poor hermeneutics when handling Gods word. As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? You are spot on. As far as Priscilla, I am unsure of this. Do you have other references to their false teaching? If you have followed me for any length of time, you have seen me raise this issue repeatedly regarding female Bible teachers and speakers. Go beyond our fears. Love Your Life 2018 (March 20, 2019) with Victoria Osteen and Terri Savelle Foy, Know Your God | Joyce Meyer and Priscilla Shirer (In this clip, Priscilla also gushes over Henry Blackaby who mishandles Scripture and teaches a form of mysticism. Before we move on to Priscilla, I just want to reiterate that preaching to men is not the only way Beth is unrepentantly breaking Scripture (although that is certainly enough to disqualify her as a teacher). My heart longs for you to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ by learning the truth of His word. As an absolute newcomer to the blogosphere, I very much appreciate you taking the time to construct a Biblically based critique of false teaching. Or will we apply extra effort and go beyond our duty? Well, technically, this article would fall under the category of discernment, but yes, I guess you could say Im into apologetics as all Christians are called to be :0). Tools. Going by her recent appearances, she no longer seems to have any reservations about violating the Scriptures that prohibit her from teaching and preaching to men.
Could you please provide me with a link to an article or video where she says that so I can check it out? Stories such as these are easily remembered, the characters bold, and the symbolism rich in meaning. We are to base everything we think, do, and believe on Scripture.
Although that interpretation of the text is a possibility, being consistent with the rest of Scripture, it is by no means certain. Kay Arthur, Beth Moore, and Priscilla Shirer Believe In Teaching Men Tooat Surphs Side.
By Wade Martin Hughes, Sr. Kyfingers@aol.com Finally, you summed up your blog post on why Christian women shouldnt follow, support or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer because she teaches men (though I cant find evidence of this but Im still lookin! And because of those issues, I deeply regret that I am not able to recommend her as I would like to. And His promises will never let you down or disappoint you. Is highly recomended, presenting four distinctive views about going "beyond the Bible", in ethics and moral issues, each one written by serious scholar. 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own, It Should Happen Rarely, But It Shouldnt Be Ignored | The Outspoken TULIP, Is Priscilla Shirer false teacher? 2 Kings 5:1-15. In keeping with the spirit of Titus 3:10-11, this is your second warning (the first is in the Welcome tab, which youve obviously already read) I will not engage in debate about biblical truth and I will not publish comments or respond to e-mails/messages attempting to engage me in debate. John 14:1-4, Luke 10:18-20, 1 Corinthians 15:19.
Do you have another links to her preaching or instructing men in the Scriptures? https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christ-centered-silence-for-noisy-advent-season. If you carefully examine Beths and Priscillas events over the last several years, youll see that they headline plenty of events that are wide open to both men and women. We treat God's written word with reverence, accepting it as complete and adequate, and refuse to alter it in any way (II Timothy 3:16,17). All of these people are proponents of the false and anti-biblical Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) doctrine, and the Jakeses are also modalists. 52-week preaching calendar to help you plan your sermons, Customizable sermon manuscripts for verse-by-verse preaching, Preach with creativity and impact throughout the year, [NEW YEAR] 4-Week Series to kick off 2023, [PRODUCTIVITY] Fulfill your full potential, [FOUNDATIONS] Getting back to what matters most. read more, Scripture:
If your ladies need a doctrinally sound Bible study in the future, theyre welcome to use anything under the Bible studies tab at the top of this page. Introduction :0), She also hangs out with Beth Moore. Thats a long sentence!). And, sometimes, basic is enough. Besides the short paragraph you provided on Lisa Harper in the list of other not-recommended teachers, do you have or know of any other good info/reviews on her? #4b- This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. No, this is a promotional clip in which Priscilla not only makes several incorrect biblical assertions, she uses those incorrect assertions as the foundation of this Bible study she has written. (Ive addressed that here in case you might be interested.).
If you dont sync with their teaching, dont follow them. How do we respond to those who are new Christians and who still "smell" of their former sinful lives?
13 Bible Verses about God's Ways Beyond Human Understanding Most Relevant Verses Isaiah 55:8-9 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the Lord. Defining moments, we all have them. Hi Osa- Not off the top of my head. It is teachers like Priscilla who want us to base our beliefs on our feelings and experiences, and that is not biblical. THE CALL? Genesis 24 King James Version (KJV) Again, just because its your opinion that theres nothing wrong with it doesnt mean its OK if the Bible says otherwise. She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. Youre more than welcome to join the study if youd like. And yet you thank him as opposed to rebuking him. Day and night they go around her upon her walls, And iniquity and mischief are in her midst. Amen. where those who recognize the deception and want to speak up, will have a place to go. You may have loved her in War Room and want to buy her books. True, and there are many problems with Beth Moore as well. I havent done One in a Million yet) this is supposition on your part. Our ladies Bible study is just about to start a Priscilla Shirer study and I was doing some research on Priscilla and found your blog (whew! I dont think you read my comment carefully enough. Are you into apologetics or something? And this faith is . Priscilla partners and associates with false teachers such as Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine,Joel and Victoria Osteen, Beth Moore, and T.D. Did you feel any kind of fear? She also teaches false doctrine (things that either are at odds with Scripture or arent in Scripture at all) and partners with other false teachers (people who teach false doctrine). Mark 8:25 Verse Concepts THIS PRACTICE WAS NOT UNCOMMON IN THE EARLY CHURCH. - Femina Sola Gratia Is she a false teacher? Im so happy for you that you have a discerning pastor. Heres more info. She is the New York Times Best Selling author of more than two dozen books and has had featured roles in movies like War Room (2015), I Can Only Imagine (2018) and Overcomer (2019). Next, youre not going to see an article like this from TGC or Challies. Genesis 24:1-4. One of two things happens: either Im ignored altogether, or one of her underlings gets back in touch with me to defend her. If they ever do an article on her, I will add it to my list of resources here. Why didnt you just study your Bible instead? 1 And the Bible says that women are not to preach to or instruct men, or to hold authority over men in the gathered body of Believers, the church. On October 16, 2016, Priscilla and her husband, children, and mother were in attendance at T.D. I dont follow TGC any more. #4a I see where you noted that Priscilla uses poor hermeneutics when handling Gods word. What Ive given you here are not my personal views. My personal views dont matter, and neither do yours. THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN TO AN ANONYMOUS CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO APPEARS TO OPEN HER HOME TO BELIEVERS FOR WORSHIP AND FELLOWSHIP. Jakes daughter), Priscilla Shirers promo page at Hillsong, Priscilla Shirer, featured speaker at Hillsongs 2016 Colour ConferencewithBrian Houston, Bobbie Houston, andChristine Caine. in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. Thanks so much for your comment. I really dont want to study scripture with/ from someone who is knowingly sinning by leading His lambs astray. Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. We have just joined a new church and I was completely disheartened to find they were about to start two womens Bible studies both by Priscilla Shirer. Hey brother Saiko Woods! As Joshua was facing the end of his life, he challenged the people to chose, the choice they would make would define them as a people. If you are also then do we not have the same Holy Spirit to counsel and teach us?
Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. read more, Scripture:
Id be interested, too! She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. The last verse was a warning; this is an encouragement. Hi Tiffany- Thanks for asking! Silly me! Its not simply a prohibition against women having a job as a pastor- theres more to it than that. Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, From: Choose What is Right: A Study in Discernment- Lesson 1: Introduction. This article is kept continuously updated as needed.
Choose What Is Right: A Study in Discernment ~ Lesson 1- Introduction, Going Beyond Scripture: Why It's Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, The Mailbag: Celebrity Christian Hot Takes (Driscoll, Graham, Groeschel, Lewis, Lucado, Piper, Vallotton), Leaving Lysa: Why You Shouldn't Be Following Lysa TerKeurst or Proverbs 31 Ministries, Doctrinally Sound Christian Men to Follow - 1, Bible Gateway- Fantastic concordance and other Bible tools, CARM- Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, Christian Answers for the New Age (Marcia Montenegro). I understand that you have your opinion about Mrs Shirer but to judge I do not think God led you to write this check your heart. As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? Im pretty sure some of our ladies are going to ask me where the evidence is that she was purposely teaching scripture to men. Not from Scripture. August 11, 2002 AM If you're new or would like to comment, please see the "Welcome- Start Here" tab at the top of this page. Therefore, it is my recommendation that women not follow, support, or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer or Going Beyond Ministries at this time. She has been doing so for years. Can you please provide a list of female speakers/writers whom you do recommend? Lots of information about those online and at http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com and Berean Research. No, Im afraid theres no such thing as a false teacher being an entryway into the faith any more than a bowl of cyanide can be a good appetizer before a healthy dinner. 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