Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Using A .44 magnum case a 240gr lead bullet uses 5.1 gr Bullseye to get 800fps for a .44 Russian load. It features a .429-inch lead bullet that sits in a straight-walled case that is 1.285 inches long. The key is good shot placement at close range. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). VTI has Uberti 44 special cylinders for $110 each. Should I? Purchase A PDF Download Of The American Handgunner July/August 2018 Issue Now! Two of those revolvers ended up in this camp, a Richards Type II conversion with a 5" barrel and the Richards-Mason conversion with an 8" barrel. In time it set many records, eventually becoming known as an established target round,[1] enabling skilled shooters to achieve 3-inch (76mm) groups at 50 yards (46m); notable for the time and still impressive today. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Pro: Very fast reloads Con: $200 to machine, $8 per clip; and you need a lot. [2], In the early 1870s, General Alexander Gorloff, the military attach assigned to the Russian Embassy in Washington, D.C., approached Smith & Wesson about the possibility of negotiating a military sales contract for the purchase of a large number of Smith & Wesson Model 3 revolvers for the Imperial Russian Army. The .44 Mag is a close- to mid-range cartridge. Not much out there better than a .44 rifle! [2] As a result of these changes, the .44 Russian generated a much higher chamber pressure of 12,000 copper units of pressure (CUP) compared to the older .44 American round, which generated only 6,0008,000 CUP. (I) Giveaway ends March 20, 2022. 44 Magnum (39) 44 Russian (3) 44 Special (36) 44-40 Winchester (9) 444 Marlin (5) 445 Super (2) 45 Acp (43) 45 Auto Rim (30) 45 Long Colt (27) 45 Schofield (7) 45-100 (1) . The 44-40 (first known as 44 Winchester Centerfire or WCF) was introduced in 1873; the 44 Russian was introduced in 1871. You can load the .44 mag cartridge to milder loads than the wrist wrenching .44 mag screamers. Midsouth Shooters can supply you with your pistol and rifle ammunition, as well as all of your shooting and reloading supplies. Likewise, .44 Magnum can still make for an excellent hunting revolver if you can handle the recoil. Both the Mag and the Special are used by serious bullseye competitors, which proves both are capable of consistent accuracy. As to bullseye accuracy, here we get into the weeds. First, the Rossi is a very high-quality clone and performs every bit as well as an original Model 1892. And this is not limited to the cowboy/old west shooters. Seven of the best .44 Magnum Revolver on the market 2023. Other Models S&W chambered the Model #3 Russian and the New Model #3, both single action top-breaks, in .44 Russian. Contest void where prohibited by law. The 44 Special has a parent case of .44 Russian, bullet diameter of .429 inches(10.9 Millimeters), neck diameter of.457 inches(11.6 Millimeters), base diameter of .457 inches (11.6 Millimeters) , and length of 1.615 inches(41.0 Millimeters). Deployed military should use stateside address. The extra length not only accommodated more propellant but also prevented the high-pressure rounds from fitting in older .44 Spl handguns, eliminating the concern that the traditional wheel guns might not hold up to the new magnum load. The short round probably will not go into the loading die far enough to crimp the bullet in place. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Stopping power is one of those terms that gets tossed around as shooters try to qualify the effectiveness of certain cartridges. I was chambering .44 Russian in a 44-40 chamber, not .44 magnum or .44 Spl. Their story started in 1872 in what might be called an instance of Russian collusion. The 44 Russian is used by many Cowboy Action Shooters who appreciate its soft shooting nature, and it's excellent accuracy. Most notable were humps at the top of Model #3s grips and odd-looking spurs extending from trigger guards. However, bullets changed from 246-gr. 416 Rem Mag; 44-40 Win; 416 Rigby; 416 Ruger; 444 Marlin; 45-60 WCF; 45-70 Government; 450 Bushmaster; . Keith partnered with Smith & Wesson and Remington Arms and the cartridge was introduced onto the market in 1956. While Special cases are usually more expensive than Magnum brass, you can always save your spent brass to save a few bucks. SASS has degenerated into a game of dress up for old baby boomers. Any discussion of magnums should pay homage to both of them. Home; Categories. While .44 Special is more than serviceable for medium to smaller game at modest distances, the reality is .44 Magnum has such a good track record that you might as well not bother. Contest open to U.S. residents only. He includes several photographs. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. Could I? Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. The Russian is a bit shorter, but I wouldn't mess with it anyway; as 44 Special brass is harder to find than 44 Mag, and the Russian even harder to find. Feb 21, 2010 I have been doing it for years, its just like shooting 38 Specials in a 357 Magnum. Recreational Shooting. In 1957 the company went to model numbers with .44 Mags getting Model 29. So, basically stopping power is difficult to quantify. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. Although Keith petitioned ammo manufacturers to offer hotter .44 Special loads for hunting, there was understandable concern about what the higher pressure loads would do to older revolvers. And yet for some reason folks just can't resist trying something just because it will fit, or because it's close enough. 44-40 or 44WCF are larger diameter cases like 45 Colt cases then bottle necked to a .427 bullet. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Out of curiosity, I tried chambering some .44 Spl. If you want confirmation that less recoil is better in a fighting cartridge, consider that the FBI ditched the original 10mm Norma load partially because of it. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. As matters progressed, the Russians wanted changes in the Model #3 and the allure of gold was incentive for S&W to make them. Add that to its limited penetration potential, and the Special isnt exactly a stellar hunting cartridge. Barrel lengths were reduced from 8 with the First Model Russians to 7 on the Second Model Russians. Because .44 Magnum cartridges are loaded to much higher pressures, running them through a revolver chambered for .44 Spl could have catastrophic results for both the shooter and the handgun. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Named Model #3, it was chambered for the .44 Henry, same as used in Winchesters Model 1866 rifles and carbines. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. can be handloaded with the same bullet. Good grief! Can a 44 magnum shoot 44 Special? Where .44 Special shines the most in comparison to its bigger brother is having drastically less recoil. Some people use a .428 bullet in 44-40 and that same bullet can be used in 44 Russian and .44 Spl-Mag. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. The biggest difference I see between a .44 special revolver and a .44 mag is the weight of the firearm. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on. Both are good shooters with easy to handle recoil in my old hands. The general had this crazy idea a bullets body should be the same diameter and fit inside a cartridge case. Higher pressure generates more energy and pushes the bullet at a higher velocity. November 23, 2011 in SASS Wire. Another might decide to rethink his life after a grazing superficial wound. It was named .44 S&W Special. The result was I had one ragged hole made by 50 bullets. Attachments 44 Remington Magnum reduced target loads.doc 57.5 KB Views: 458 For info purposes only, use it at your own risk. Rounds Per Box: 50 $ 49.99 Add to wishlist Add to cart 142 in stock (can be backordered) 44 Magnum Cowboy .44 Magnum in "Wells Fargo" Ammo Bag! Yes. bullet at a similar velocity of about 750 fps. He's just usin primers and wax. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Based on the black-powder .44 Smith & Wesson Russian, the Special featured the newest, state-of-the-art smokeless powder. Yup and yup. And both are fine options for hunting and home defense. Not sure which of these classic big-bore handgun cartridges you should load in your six-gun? Meanwhile, the .44 Spl's recoil is mild as milk. While the former has good enough performance to be suitable for self-defense, its not an ideal choice given what else is available on the current market. If you have a .44 Mag, it can safely handle .44 Spl cartridges. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if needed) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. The .44Spl is a wonderful cartridge in the GP-100 and a bit of a handful in the Charter Arms Bulldog Pug when loading jacketed bullets although big, heavy, slow lead bullets work just fine. The .44 Special was the preferred cartridge for this task, as there were more varied projectiles made for it, and the revolvers of the daysuch as the S&W Triple Lock, Colt New Service and SAAhad thicker cylinder walls in .44 than in .45 Colt. So, yes, the Special is definitely a viable defensive cartridge. I have a pair of Uberti .44 Russians and back them up with a Colt Single Action. You may be thinking of the 44 Magnum or the 44 Special, they will both chamber the 44 Russian, as it is the parent round of both. The choice is simple: Buy the .44 Magnum..Hand load to .22 Special specs. So, they decided to update their most popular large-bore cartridge. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 44 Russian in a 44 Mag. It was named .44 S&W Special. of Unique yields 790 fps all from a 71/2 Colt Single Action. God above all but I must admit the residing place for him must be in the heart of my wife and daughters. What is the Difference Between .44 Mag and .44 Special? Later all lube grooves were covered as would be right and proper with lead alloy bullets. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. The S&W Model 29 was so popular that it quickly sold out, leaving customers to flock to other .44 Magnum revolvers like the Ruger Redhawk. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. However, when a heavyweight bullet rips through the air at Magnum velocities, over-penetration can be a serious concern. I've been shooting a 44 Mag for over 50 years and have used all manufactures of brass. . And the equation leans heavily on shooter skills. RN bullets over 3.8 grs. The .44 Spl also has a more limited ammo selection. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Deployed military should use stateside address. Now jump to 1907. The genesis of the .44 Magnum was a group of tinkerers, cowboys and gun nuts who werent satisfied with factory loads. of Trail Boss for right around 685 fps. The result was the same velocity with the same 246-grain round-nose lead bullet, affectionately known as a Flying Ashtray due to being large and slow. Vote Independent, vote Republican, vote Democratic, just dont vote Incumbent! As far as ballistics, when fired from a 6-inch barrel revolver, a heavy 240-grain .44 Magnum bullet can reach speeds of up to 1,380 feet per second, generating kinetic energy at themuzzle of 1,015 . With Lymans RN bullets 4.2 grs. Way back in the in my youth I was told to only shoot the proper and appropriate ammunition in any firearm. The 44-40 chamber is too large(about the same diameter as a 45 Colt case) and bottle necked. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. Taming its recoil takes some serious effort. At ignition, the projectile is going to rattle around in the chamber until it engages the rifling and won't be real accurate. 3.5 to 3.6 grains of Red Dot or Bullseye powder achieves this with very good accuracy. The .44 Remington Magnum, also known as .44 Magnum or 10.9x33mmR (as it is known in unofficial metric designation), is a rimmed, large-bore cartridge originally designed for revolvers and quickly adopted for carbines and rifles.Despite the ".44" designation, guns chambered for the .44 Magnum round, and its parent, the .44 Special, use 0.429 in (10.9 mm) diameter bullets. I know 18 such rounds came with my first S&W .44 Magnum in 1968. Starline produces ready to load brass and of course any .429/.430 inch lead bullet between about 180 to 250 grains is usable. Their Double Action top-breaks were mostly chambered in .44 Russian too. .45 Schofield brass works better. Great article! Yes, the 44 Special can be applied in the 44 Magnum barrel with no . 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